Only Good HC Jets have had since Walt Michaels was Parcells - Jets Insider.com Forums

Greentide · 12-04-2012, 05:20 PM

Rex, like his father should've stayed a defensive coach. Equally sad IMO I don't think the Jets have ever had a good GM or owner. Hence the B.S. with this team is the never ending story. The occassional flash just to give us fans false hope before it all comes tumbling down.

Apache 51 · 12-04-2012, 05:21 PM

Parcells won a SB with the Jets?

chirorob · 12-04-2012, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apache 51

Parcells won a SB with the Jets?

Yes, because you can't be a good coach without winning a super bowl

SONNY WERBLIN · 12-04-2012, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greentide

Rex, like his father should've stayed a defensive coach. Equally sad IMO I don't think the Jets have ever had a good GM or owner. Hence the B.S. with this team is the never ending story. The occassional flash just to give us fans false hope before it all comes tumbling down.

HEY!! ...... I was a great owner.

I also think Dick Steinberg was a very good GM and would have gotten the Jets rolling after the false start of hiring Bruce Coslet. It's a tragedy he was struck down by stomach cancer.

SONNY WERBLIN · 12-04-2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chirorob

Yes, because you can't be a good coach without winning a super bowl

Didn't you know Brian Billick was a better coach than:

Bud Grant
George Allen
Don Coryell
Paul Brown
Sid Gilman

DDNYjets · 12-04-2012, 06:11 PM

Since Parcells we have have had a healthy franchise QB for a total of 25 games. Chad Pennington in 2002 (14 games) and Brett Favre in 2008 (11 games).

Franchise QBs make coaches.

billygreen · 12-04-2012, 06:36 PM

Al Groh might have been a good headcoach but he only stuck around for one year after posting a 9-7 record. Had a good pedigree with the Giants and Pats, and was a Parcells guy.

Led Halen · 12-04-2012, 11:19 PM

The Jets have not had a good HC since Parcells huh? So the years since Parcells have been the most prolonged success the team has ever had. So with only bad coaches in that time frame, one can assume the Jets were supremely talented and won in spite of these terrible coaches? If this is true, the GMs that built those teams must be very good right? But by your opinion, they're all incompetent? Try not to contradict yourself the next time you decide to whine just for the sake of whining.

JumbalayaJet · 12-05-2012, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billygreen

Al Groh might have been a good headcoach but he only stuck around for one year after posting a 9-7 record. Had a good pedigree with the Giants and Pats, and was a Parcells guy.

He was awful at Virginia but there was a reason Tuna and all his helpers scurried like rats. Parcells' going away presents to Curtis and Vinny left no cap space to draft Orlando Pace. Groh and Baby Bill saw what so many still can't.

Jets337 · 12-05-2012, 01:55 AM

While Parcells was a great coach he only gave us one playoff apperance in 3 years. Herm was a good coach but couldn't get us to the next level. Mangini could have been a good coach if Brett Favre wasn't forced upon him.

Gas2No99 · 12-05-2012, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumbalayaJet

He was awful at Virginia but there was a reason Tuna and all his helpers scurried like rats. Parcells' going away presents to Curtis and Vinny left no cap space to draft Orlando Pace. Groh and Baby Bill saw what so many still can't.

Orlando Pace was drafted by the Rams #1 overall in 1997, Jets selected James Farrior #8 overall after a few trade-downs.

BOTH Curtis Martin & Vinny Testaverde (who was originally signed as a back-up to Glen Foley) signed with the Jets and were on the 1998 teams, not the '97 team.

BroadwayRay · 12-06-2012, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas2No99

Orlando Pace was drafted by the Rams #1 overall in 1997, Jets selected James Farrior #8 overall after a few trade-downs.

So what's your point? The Jets had the first pick that year and traded it to the Rams (for very little in return, by the way). They could have -- should have -- taken Pace.

TokyoJetsFan · 12-06-2012, 03:00 AM

Yes Rex gets us to 2 AFC Championship games in his first 2 years with Mark Sanchez as his QB and he hasn't been a good coach. Please.

Johnny Bravo · 12-06-2012, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoJetsFan

Yes Rex gets us to 2 AFC Championship games in his first 2 years with Mark Sanchez as his QB and he hasn't been a good coach. Please.

Mangini already had a good foundation in place and Rex thrived with it. But Tannenbaum and Rex have slowly ripped the roster apart and the team stinks with their stamp on it.

kevin45 · 12-06-2012, 07:27 AM

Under Rex the Jets are 33-27 & 4-2 in the playoffs with one of the worst QB's in the NFL. Just sayin.

kennyo7 · 12-06-2012, 07:31 AM

[QUOTE=Jets337;471Mangini could have been a good coach if Brett Favre wasn't forced upon him.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Mangini had us heading in the right direction until Favre. I still think Mangini will be a good coach when all is said and done. He was made HC way to early. Should never have taken the Cleveland job as that was an impossible situation with absolutely no talent on either side of the football. If woody kept Mangini im sure he would have exceeded Rex success, especially if he hired Rob Ryan as DC as he was planning on doing.

southparkcpa · 12-06-2012, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumbalayaJet

He was awful at Virginia but there was a reason Tuna and all his helpers scurried like rats. Parcells' going away presents to Curtis and Vinny left no cap space to draft Orlando Pace. Groh and Baby Bill saw what so many still can't.

I think many here see it. Some don't.

Working for Woody is partially a puppeteer show.

Maury77 · 12-06-2012, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoJetsFan

Yes Rex gets us to 2 AFC Championship games in his first 2 years with Mark Sanchez as his QB and he hasn't been a good coach. Please.

Not only that, he got there with Shotty as his OC.

I think Rex can be salvaged with a complete overhaul of the offensive staff, but I am not sure that will happen.

Apache 51 · 12-06-2012, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chirorob

Yes, because you can't be a good coach without winning a super bowl

Now you understand.

chirorob · 12-06-2012, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

Didn't you know Brian Billick was a better coach than:

Bud Grant
George Allen
Don Coryell
Paul Brown
Sid Gilman

Yes, didn't know if my sarcasm was picked up or not. Sort of like George Seifert had the highest winning percentage in NFL history until he went to the Panthers. Not because he was a great coach, but because he took over the 49ers in the middle of their run.

12-04-2012, 05:20 PM	#1
Greentide Practice Squad Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 386	Only Good HC Jets have had since Walt Michaels was Parcells Rex, like his father should've stayed a defensive coach. Equally sad IMO I don't think the Jets have ever had a good GM or owner. Hence the B.S. with this team is the never ending story. The occassional flash just to give us fans false hope before it all comes tumbling down.

12-04-2012, 05:21 PM	#2
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,826	Parcells won a SB with the Jets?

12-04-2012, 06:11 PM	#6
DDNYjets Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,578	Since Parcells we have have had a healthy franchise QB for a total of 25 games. Chad Pennington in 2002 (14 games) and Brett Favre in 2008 (11 games). Franchise QBs make coaches.

12-04-2012, 06:36 PM	#7
billygreen Veteran Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,039	Al Groh might have been a good headcoach but he only stuck around for one year after posting a 9-7 record. Had a good pedigree with the Giants and Pats, and was a Parcells guy.

12-04-2012, 11:19 PM	#8
Led Halen Practice Squad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 494	The Jets have not had a good HC since Parcells huh? So the years since Parcells have been the most prolonged success the team has ever had. So with only bad coaches in that time frame, one can assume the Jets were supremely talented and won in spite of these terrible coaches? If this is true, the GMs that built those teams must be very good right? But by your opinion, they're all incompetent? Try not to contradict yourself the next time you decide to whine just for the sake of whining.

12-05-2012, 01:55 AM	#10
Jets337 NEW JERSEY JETS Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 852	While Parcells was a great coach he only gave us one playoff apperance in 3 years. Herm was a good coach but couldn't get us to the next level. Mangini could have been a good coach if Brett Favre wasn't forced upon him.

12-06-2012, 03:00 AM	#13
TokyoJetsFan Is keeping a lookout for stolen ipad2's Veteran Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,257	Yes Rex gets us to 2 AFC Championship games in his first 2 years with Mark Sanchez as his QB and he hasn't been a good coach. Please.

12-06-2012, 07:27 AM	#15
kevin45 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 720	Under Rex the Jets are 33-27 & 4-2 in the playoffs with one of the worst QB's in the NFL. Just sayin.

12-06-2012, 07:31 AM	#16
kennyo7 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,417	[QUOTE=Jets337;471Mangini could have been a good coach if Brett Favre wasn't forced upon him.[/QUOTE] Exactly. Mangini had us heading in the right direction until Favre. I still think Mangini will be a good coach when all is said and done. He was made HC way to early. Should never have taken the Cleveland job as that was an impossible situation with absolutely no talent on either side of the football. If woody kept Mangini im sure he would have exceeded Rex success, especially if he hired Rob Ryan as DC as he was planning on doing.