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Led Halen · 01-09-2013, 12:46 AM

So you guys b*tched and moaned relentlessly about how winning any of our last 3 games would ruin our draft position. Rooted for losses some of you. Now you guys are gonna sit here and b*tch about losing those games bc you think the team quit? Which is it?

GreenReaper · 01-09-2013, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Led Halen

So you guys b*tched and moaned relentlessly about how winning any of our last 3 games would ruin our draft position. Rooted for losses some of you. Now you guys are gonna sit here and b*tch about losing those games bc you think the team quit? Which is it?

Take your pick...

WestCoastOffensive · 01-09-2013, 02:08 AM

Do you think he'll be Cohen to the Combine?

GreenReaper · 01-09-2013, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

I'd rather have Leonard Cohen than Scott Cohen, Hallelujah!

Here ya go...

JamaicanJetFan · 01-09-2013, 10:37 AM

I'm as pro-Caldwell and pro-Gamble as anyone else on this board. I'd love to bring in an outside hire and a fresh perspective.

But why does everyone assume Scott Cohen is a terrible choice? He's not physically attached at the hip to Mike Tannenbaum. He is his own man. He has a long track record of scouting and personnel at various teams around the NFL. We shouldn't simply hire someone because they're from outside the organization. If Cohen is the best man for the job, then he should be hired. Unless someone has specifics of Cohen induced screwups...don't pin Tannenbaum's mismanagement on Cohen. For example, Terry Bradway really wanted the Jets to draft Russell Wilson...Tannenbaum did not pull the trigger on that. Ultimately, Tannenbaum has been at fault in recent years.

Drunk Namath · 01-09-2013, 10:39 AM

I think were done with "settling" on a candidate...I personally want them to bring in the BEST guy available..

Savage69 · 01-09-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JamaicanJetFan

I'm as pro-Caldwell and pro-Gamble as anyone else on this board. I'd love to bring in an outside hire and a fresh perspective.

But why does everyone assume Scott Cohen is a terrible choice? He's not physically attached at the hip to Mike Tannenbaum. He is his own man. He has a long track record of scouting and personnel at various teams around the NFL. We shouldn't simply hire someone because they're from outside the organization. If Cohen is the best man for the job, then he should be hired. Unless someone has specifics of Cohen induced screwups...don't pin Tannenbaum's mismanagement on Cohen. For example, Terry Bradway really wanted the Jets to draft Russell Wilson...Tannenbaum did not pull the trigger on that. Ultimately, Tannenbaum has been at fault in recent years.

What would really be bad is if his name was Marty Cohen and he was Spanish..

N Y J · 01-09-2013, 10:40 AM

we want someone fresh, new blood. The fact is we need an outside perspective with zero ties to this team. I feel like if we hire an in house candidate it will be the same old song and dance. But who knows, maybe Cohen is the best candidate. It'll be a wait and see. If he does get hired there will be a HUGE backlash that I don't think is warranted. I'd have to give him a few years first.

SONNY WERBLIN · 01-09-2013, 10:40 AM

Unless he has the memo to Tanny saying I think re-signing Sanchez is a terrible idea, he is a bad choice.

Warfish · 01-09-2013, 10:42 AM

1. He appears to be the "last resort" candidate, not a first-choice.

2. He is an internal candidate at a time I believe we need an injection of new, outside, thinking at the GM position.

3. Right or wrong, he is "tainted" by having worked under Tannenbaum and Bradway, by extention.

4. He is not a "name" candidate that most fans have heard of (unliek Gamble, for example, or Caldwell).

intelligentjetsfan · 01-09-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

Unless he has the memo to Tanny saying I think re-signing Sanchez is a terrible idea, he is a bad choice.

Good point.

By the way, how many teams have requested permission from the Jets to talk to Cohen?

Sourceworx · 01-09-2013, 10:47 AM

He worked for Tannenbaum the last few years.

Looking at his bio he has a strong scouting background, having worked for the Redskins (under Charlie Casserly), the Jaguars (in the late '90s when they were good), and for the Eagles at the height of Andy Reid's tenure (he worked under Tom Heckert).

If this guy was not associated with the Jets, this board would like him. He fits the description of what most on here want out of a GM. But he's an internal candidate, and that's unpopular right now.

freestater · 01-09-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan

Good point.

By the way, how many teams have requested permission from the Jets to talk to Cohen?

Only the Browns have expressed interest.

I repeat for clarification.... THE BROWNS.

And even they haven't scheduled an interview.

If Cohen had any talent (perceived or otherwise) he'd at least be getting an interview here and there. but so far....

revischrist · 01-09-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan

Good point.

By the way, how many teams have requested permission from the Jets to talk to Cohen?

Also a good point.

Cohen may be a fine GM option, but I think this organization needs a new perspective.

shuler82 · 01-09-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

1. He appears to be the "last resort" candidate, not a first-choice.

2. He is an internal candidate at a time I believe we need an injection of new, outside, thinking at the GM position.

3. Right or wrong, he is "tainted" by having worked under Tannenbaum and Bradway, by extention.

4. He is not a "name" candidate that most fans have heard of (unliek Gamble, for example, or Caldwell).

+1

and to add in that Cohen doesn't appear to be on anyone else's radar... unless you count that one report from a beat writer that the Browns 'might' be interested in speaking with him.

JETFAN1 · 01-09-2013, 10:49 AM

This is my simple assumption. Cohen told Woody what he wanted to hear. Pointing out all of Mike's errors and what he would've done differently. Also do not discount Bradway in all of this since he is in Woody's ear.

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freestater · 01-09-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Braumeister

He worked for Tannenbaum the last few years.

Looking at his bio he has a strong scouting background, having worked for the Redskins (under Charlie Casserly), the Jaguars (in the late '90s when they were good), and for the Eagles at the height of Andy Reid's tenure (he worked under Tom Heckert).

If this guy was not associated with the Jets, this board would like him. But he's an internal candidate, and that's unpopular right now.

This is my point. You'd think if the guy was worth a damn, he's got connections from a multitude of places and faces. Yet, nobody's been picking up the phone.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.....

Rich Caster · 01-09-2013, 10:51 AM

Woody wants Rex to pull all the strings, the new GM will assume a Mike Petine type of relationship with Rex. The new GM will have no veto power over Rex

eaglenj · 01-09-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

1. He appears to be the "last resort" candidate, not a first-choice.

2. He is an internal candidate at a time I believe we need an injection of new, outside, thinking at the GM position.

3. Right or wrong, he is "tainted" by having worked under Tannenbaum and Bradway, by extention.

4. He is not a "name" candidate that most fans have heard of (unliek Gamble, for example, or Caldwell).

On top of all this, the bottom line is that perception is reality, especially in a situation like this.

This organization is viewed by everyone from fans to respected NFL people as a complete cluster-F in every single way. And if we "clean house" by hiring someone from withing YET AGAIN, Woody etc will just look like the morons that people think they are.

Rex, while a respected defensive mind, mumbles and fumbles through his press conferences like someone who just doesnt get it.

Woody, contrary to some on the board who think investing your families money constitutes being a good business man, has never run an organization in his life and certainly has not exhibited a single quality in his tenure with the jets that would lead a sane person to think he can be a good owner.

Our QB, was backed the entire year by the HC, even though he has led every other QB in turnovers over the past 32 games, and finished 31st in QB ranking, all while hanging his head every sunday.

We traded for the most contrversial backup QB in the history of the NFL, and then didnt play him.

We just lost all 3 coordinators in 1 offseason. If that has EVER happened to another team, with the HC remaining, please give me an example.

The above is the bottom line and those are facts. It doesnt matter that westoff retired and the other 2 coodinators leaving are good things. It doesnt matter Rex had no where to turn since both sanchez and tebow were terrible. It doesnt matter that maybe Rex is just a bad public speaker and actually answered the questions honestly.

All that matters is that the NFL is like any other close knit group of people...they all talk, and if you want to remain a respected part of that group, you make respectable decisions.

Right now, taking over this butt-fumble of an organziation is clearly not a respectable decision for up and coming GMs.

JamaicanJetFan · 01-09-2013, 10:52 AM

I could counter the above by saying that the Jets lack of success under Tannenbaum specifically is why Cohen hasn't received more interviews. Of course the candidates from Atlanta, SF, Indianapolis, etc are getting interview-- those teams made the playoffs. Cohen may be extremely qualified...yet simply stuck under the follies of Tannenbaum and the Jets 6-10 finish to the season...

Again, I'm not necessarily advocating FOR Cohen...I just think it's silly to hate on him before he's done anything.

01-09-2013, 10:37 AM	#425
JamaicanJetFan START BILAL POWELL, kthx All League Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,690	Why is Scott Cohen a bad choice? I'm as pro-Caldwell and pro-Gamble as anyone else on this board. I'd love to bring in an outside hire and a fresh perspective. But why does everyone assume Scott Cohen is a terrible choice? He's not physically attached at the hip to Mike Tannenbaum. He is his own man. He has a long track record of scouting and personnel at various teams around the NFL. We shouldn't simply hire someone because they're from outside the organization. If Cohen is the best man for the job, then he should be hired. Unless someone has specifics of Cohen induced screwups...don't pin Tannenbaum's mismanagement on Cohen. For example, Terry Bradway really wanted the Jets to draft Russell Wilson...Tannenbaum did not pull the trigger on that. Ultimately, Tannenbaum has been at fault in recent years.

01-09-2013, 10:47 AM	#432
Sourceworx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 13,411	He worked for Tannenbaum the last few years. Looking at his bio he has a strong scouting background, having worked for the Redskins (under Charlie Casserly), the Jaguars (in the late '90s when they were good), and for the Eagles at the height of Andy Reid's tenure (he worked under Tom Heckert). If this guy was not associated with the Jets, this board would like him. He fits the description of what most on here want out of a GM. But he's an internal candidate, and that's unpopular right now. Last edited by Sourceworx; 01-09-2013 at 10:49 AM.

01-09-2013, 12:46 AM	#421
Led Halen Practice Squad Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 493	So you guys btched and moaned relentlessly about how winning any of our last 3 games would ruin our draft position. Rooted for losses some of you. Now you guys are gonna sit here and btch about losing those games bc you think the team quit? Which is it?

01-09-2013, 02:08 AM	#423
WestCoastOffensive Lying to the Smithsonian Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SF via Strong Island Posts: 26,638	Do you think he'll be Cohen to the Combine?

01-09-2013, 10:39 AM	#426
Drunk Namath "...I couldn't care less about the team struggling.." Waterboy Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 19	I think were done with "settling" on a candidate...I personally want them to bring in the BEST guy available..

01-09-2013, 10:40 AM	#428
N Y J Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 104	we want someone fresh, new blood. The fact is we need an outside perspective with zero ties to this team. I feel like if we hire an in house candidate it will be the same old song and dance. But who knows, maybe Cohen is the best candidate. It'll be a wait and see. If he does get hired there will be a HUGE backlash that I don't think is warranted. I'd have to give him a few years first.

01-09-2013, 10:40 AM	#429
SONNY WERBLIN Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,355	Unless he has the memo to Tanny saying I think re-signing Sanchez is a terrible idea, he is a bad choice.

01-09-2013, 10:42 AM	#430
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	1. He appears to be the "last resort" candidate, not a first-choice. 2. He is an internal candidate at a time I believe we need an injection of new, outside, thinking at the GM position. 3. Right or wrong, he is "tainted" by having worked under Tannenbaum and Bradway, by extention. 4. He is not a "name" candidate that most fans have heard of (unliek Gamble, for example, or Caldwell).

01-09-2013, 10:49 AM	#436
JETFAN1 Bored Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,782	This is my simple assumption. Cohen told Woody what he wanted to hear. Pointing out all of Mike's errors and what he would've done differently. Also do not discount Bradway in all of this since he is in Woody's ear. Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2

01-09-2013, 10:51 AM	#438
Rich Caster Rookie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 767	Woody wants Rex to pull all the strings, the new GM will assume a Mike Petine type of relationship with Rex. The new GM will have no veto power over Rex

01-09-2013, 10:52 AM	#440
JamaicanJetFan START BILAL POWELL, kthx All League Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,690	I could counter the above by saying that the Jets lack of success under Tannenbaum specifically is why Cohen hasn't received more interviews. Of course the candidates from Atlanta, SF, Indianapolis, etc are getting interview-- those teams made the playoffs. Cohen may be extremely qualified...yet simply stuck under the follies of Tannenbaum and the Jets 6-10 finish to the season... Again, I'm not necessarily advocating FOR Cohen...I just think it's silly to hate on him before he's done anything.