OFFICIAL JI POLL: What should the Jets do with Revis - Page 2 - Jets Insider.com Forums

chrisjets23 · 01-25-2013, 06:42 PM

If Revis wasn't coming off a major injury, I could see a team giving 2 #1s for him. I think the best offer the Jets will get is a 1 and 2...a 1 and 3 seems most realistic though.

morite · 01-25-2013, 06:43 PM

If we can pull (2) #1's off with him coming off that knee injury, bye-bye Revis...I'd do that in a heartbeat.

halfsharkalligatorhalfman · 01-25-2013, 06:44 PM

The guy's coming off a major injury. Now's the perfect opportunity to try and extend him at the nadir of his value. Trading him for a low 1st round pick (probably going to be the best return) is a mistake. Even two 1st round picks I'd consider not doing it. The guy is a generational talent. You don't trade that, even if the team is dog****.

DDNYjets · 01-25-2013, 06:54 PM

This poll is flawed. Options 2 and 3 are pipe dreams and should be omitted.

It should be: Keep him long-term (implies doing whatever it takes $$$-wise). Trade him (implies trading him for best deal). Do Nothing (implies risking a holdout and/or losing him in FA).

Dreamers · 01-25-2013, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio State NY Jets fan

I think they should wait, do nothing, there is no rush

My first choice would be to sign Revis to a long term deal (~12m decreasing over time) so he can retire as a Jet

He can and should be the highest paid CB but this team cannot win a championship with a 16-20 million dollar CB (and he is gone if that's the expectation, current contract assures that)

Fitz and CJ2k got top money and those teams are crippled, like the Jets

So, if someone offers at least 2 no' 1's (2014 draft is key to the rebuild) then we listen (acceptable option but not preferred)

but for ~2nd round value i would rather have Revis on the team next year and let free agency decide (So what if he walks, we gave a 2nd to rent Cro and Tanny gave a pick for the crappy Eagle CB before Cro)

Worth it just to keep Revis on the team, he will be playing for 100 million, could be fun to watch

Fitz's deal is not the reason Zona sucks. They named DA starter after he lost the QB comp in camp. Then gave up a draft pick in what was one of the strongest draft classes in history for Kolb. They have passed on QBs like Flacco, Ryan Mallett, Brock Osweiler, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, Kirk Cousins, Colt McCoy, and oh yeah Kevin Kolb. While all the time saying they don't have a QB of the future. Zona even when they draft good doesn't keep the guys they draft.

BRONX JET · 01-25-2013, 07:03 PM

Pats are rumored to make an offer. All you need to know about this idea

patman · 01-25-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BRONX JET

Pats are rumored to make an offer. All you need to know about this idea

The pats can't afford him.

Greentide · 01-25-2013, 08:02 PM

Unfortunately, the asshats running this organization pre Idzik has led us to "needing" to trade Revis for as much value as we can get in return.

escamoter2 · 01-25-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by THE_SOOTHSAYER

If you think there should be more choices here, let me know.

I feel like one of the choices needs to be "I'm speechless."

chrisjets23 · 01-25-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by halfsharkalligatorhalfman

The guy's coming off a major injury. Now's the perfect opportunity to try and extend him at the nadir of his value. Trading him for a low 1st round pick (probably going to be the best return) is a mistake. Even two 1st round picks I'd consider not doing it. The guy is a generational talent. You don't trade that, even if the team is dog****.

Revis is going to want to paid $...injury or no injury. He's already held out twice for more $ with multiple years left on his contract. If the Jets let him play out his contract, great chance he goes to another team for a lot of $...and Jets would lose him without getting anything back.

Ohio State NY Jets fan · 01-25-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamers

Fitz's deal is not the reason Zona sucks. They named DA starter after he lost the QB comp in camp. Then gave up a draft pick in what was one of the strongest draft classes in history for Kolb. They have passed on QBs like Flacco, Ryan Mallett, Brock Osweiler, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, Kirk Cousins, Colt McCoy, and oh yeah Kevin Kolb. While all the time saying they don't have a QB of the future. Zona even when they draft good doesn't keep the guys they draft.

no arguments on Zona but there are always mistakes, on every team

8 year 120 million dollar contracts limit options especially on a team that needs to improve many areas

at that rate, 4 players could use almost half the cap

BamaJets · 01-25-2013, 08:34 PM

I know the media keeps calling Revis' latest deal a "band aid" contract and that it was supposed to be re-done after 2 years or whatever. If that is true, can you imagine how pain in the assy Revis' pain in the aas agents will be? Maybe some new people to work with (Idzik) might make things go a little smoother .... if it gets to that point, of course

NxYxJets · 01-25-2013, 08:40 PM

Keep him if it makes sense. Try to get the deal done now. It not, bye bye and get a 1 and whatever else we can get.

lamont_jordan_rules · 01-25-2013, 08:40 PM

If he'll do a 10-12 per season I lock him up for 5 years

If not I trade him for best offer before next season

skipper · 01-25-2013, 08:44 PM

Trade him if we get a decent (anything more than the third/fourth round comp pick we'd get if he walked) offer. People have too much of a tendency to fall in love with someone and get blinded. At this point he is no more than a one year ('13) rental. He's going with the highest bidder a year from now and that bidder will not be the Jets. We're not going to the SB next year so we're better off getting some draft picks and some FA with the $ we're not paying him.

ASH_1962 · 01-25-2013, 08:47 PM

Look up

"Herschel Walker Trade"

TheMikeIsHot · 01-25-2013, 08:47 PM

The do whatever it takes line is way off because he could ask for $200M. I don't think he will, but its a possibility.

That said, I think they have to keep him. Offer him something like 5 years for $60M with about 35-40 of that guaranteed and include a whole bunch of hold out clauses so he can't hold their feet to the fire.

Keep in mind this team gave Mark Sanchez $58M. Santonio Holmes got a $45M deal. Bart Scott got $48M. Calvin Pace got $42M.

None of those guys are half as good at their jobs as Revis is at his.

Letting him go does not make them a better team and it does not send a good message to the other players on the team.

I know there are a lot of guys on here who hate him, and that's fine, but lets not pretend that he's the only player in he league looking to get every penny he deserves. And I know none of you would go into your boss office and tell him you want to take less money to work there because you love it so much. Pease get over that sh!t already

All I care about is how he performs on Sunday because that's all that really matters.

Ohio State NY Jets fan · 01-25-2013, 09:24 PM

Looks like Izzy made the call to chill out Revis:

"I reached out to Darrelle and I made sure he knew exactly where we were coming from and that this is my first day on the job," Idzik said Friday on NBC Network's "Pro Football Talk." "And our message to everyone was, 'Give us a chance to get to know each other and introduce ourselves to each other.'

"A lot of the people in the building you know through football circles but you've never worked along side each other. So give us that chance and give us the chance to go through our current roster, ultimately that's the basis of comparison to whatever you may contemplate doing. We haven't taken that first step and that's what I relayed to Darrelle."

It's a logical explanation, one that Revis "reacted well" to, according to Idzik. Added the new GM: "My feeling was that he was appreciative to hear from me about what happened."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...rom-john-idzik

NY's stepchild · 01-25-2013, 11:15 PM

I think you need something inbetween 2 #1s and for whatever you can get. That's kind of silly. I'd say a 1 and a conditional pick to be named later. They don't have to be this year either. Someone will mortgage their future to win now.

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 01-25-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shuler82

+ 1

#2 is not a realistic option. He reportedly wants $15M+ a season. There's no way to make such a contract 'cap friendly'.

I hear this but can't find it anywhere. So you have a link to what he reportedly wants? Seriously, cuz I can't find it

View Poll Results: OFFICIAL JI POLL: What should the Jets do with Revis
EXTEND HIM...at all costs! Do whatever it takes.	15	9.55%
EXTEND HIM...only if the deal is cap-friendly	50	31.85%
TRADE HIM...for nothing less than 2 #1 Picks	29	18.47%
TRADE HIM...for best offer (its better than getting nothing)	56	35.67%
DO NOTHING	7	4.46%
Voters: 157. You may not vote on this poll

01-25-2013, 06:54 PM	#24
DDNYjets Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,579	This poll is flawed. Options 2 and 3 are pipe dreams and should be omitted. It should be: Keep him long-term (implies doing whatever it takes $$$-wise). Trade him (implies trading him for best deal). Do Nothing (implies risking a holdout and/or losing him in FA). Last edited by DDNYjets; 01-25-2013 at 07:00 PM.

01-25-2013, 08:47 PM	#37
TheMikeIsHot All Pro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 7,046	The do whatever it takes line is way off because he could ask for $200M. I don't think he will, but its a possibility. That said, I think they have to keep him. Offer him something like 5 years for $60M with about 35-40 of that guaranteed and include a whole bunch of hold out clauses so he can't hold their feet to the fire. Keep in mind this team gave Mark Sanchez $58M. Santonio Holmes got a $45M deal. Bart Scott got $48M. Calvin Pace got $42M. None of those guys are half as good at their jobs as Revis is at his. Letting him go does not make them a better team and it does not send a good message to the other players on the team. I know there are a lot of guys on here who hate him, and that's fine, but lets not pretend that he's the only player in he league looking to get every penny he deserves. And I know none of you would go into your boss office and tell him you want to take less money to work there because you love it so much. Pease get over that sh!t already All I care about is how he performs on Sunday because that's all that really matters. Last edited by TheMikeIsHot; 01-25-2013 at 08:49 PM.

01-25-2013, 06:42 PM	#21
chrisjets23 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 726	If Revis wasn't coming off a major injury, I could see a team giving 2 #1s for him. I think the best offer the Jets will get is a 1 and 2...a 1 and 3 seems most realistic though.

01-25-2013, 06:43 PM	#22
morite Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 223	If we can pull (2) #1's off with him coming off that knee injury, bye-bye Revis...I'd do that in a heartbeat.

01-25-2013, 06:44 PM	#23
halfsharkalligatorhalfman FREE VILMA Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 509	The guy's coming off a major injury. Now's the perfect opportunity to try and extend him at the nadir of his value. Trading him for a low 1st round pick (probably going to be the best return) is a mistake. Even two 1st round picks I'd consider not doing it. The guy is a generational talent. You don't trade that, even if the team is dog****.

01-25-2013, 07:03 PM	#26
BRONX JET Didn't hear a peep from a place called Queens All League Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Bronx, USA Posts: 3,077	Pats are rumored to make an offer. All you need to know about this idea

01-25-2013, 08:02 PM	#28
Greentide Practice Squad Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 386	Unfortunately, the asshats running this organization pre Idzik has led us to "needing" to trade Revis for as much value as we can get in return.

01-25-2013, 08:34 PM	#32
BamaJets Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,777	I know the media keeps calling Revis' latest deal a "band aid" contract and that it was supposed to be re-done after 2 years or whatever. If that is true, can you imagine how pain in the assy Revis' pain in the aas agents will be? Maybe some new people to work with (Idzik) might make things go a little smoother .... if it gets to that point, of course

01-25-2013, 08:40 PM	#33
NxYxJets Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 473	Keep him if it makes sense. Try to get the deal done now. It not, bye bye and get a 1 and whatever else we can get.

01-25-2013, 08:40 PM	#34
lamont_jordan_rules Can't Wait To See Marty Mornhinweg's Offense! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Atlanta via NJ Posts: 6,313	If he'll do a 10-12 per season I lock him up for 5 years If not I trade him for best offer before next season

01-25-2013, 08:44 PM	#35
skipper Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 111	Trade him if we get a decent (anything more than the third/fourth round comp pick we'd get if he walked) offer. People have too much of a tendency to fall in love with someone and get blinded. At this point he is no more than a one year ('13) rental. He's going with the highest bidder a year from now and that bidder will not be the Jets. We're not going to the SB next year so we're better off getting some draft picks and some FA with the $ we're not paying him.

01-25-2013, 08:47 PM	#36
ASH_1962 Curtis Martin Class of 2012 All League Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,513	Look up "Herschel Walker Trade"

01-25-2013, 09:24 PM	#38
Ohio State NY Jets fan Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,994	Looks like Izzy made the call to chill out Revis: "I reached out to Darrelle and I made sure he knew exactly where we were coming from and that this is my first day on the job," Idzik said Friday on NBC Network's "Pro Football Talk." "And our message to everyone was, 'Give us a chance to get to know each other and introduce ourselves to each other.' "A lot of the people in the building you know through football circles but you've never worked along side each other. So give us that chance and give us the chance to go through our current roster, ultimately that's the basis of comparison to whatever you may contemplate doing. We haven't taken that first step and that's what I relayed to Darrelle." It's a logical explanation, one that Revis "reacted well" to, according to Idzik. Added the new GM: "My feeling was that he was appreciative to hear from me about what happened." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...rom-john-idzik

01-25-2013, 11:15 PM	#39
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,856	I think you need something inbetween 2 #1s and for whatever you can get. That's kind of silly. I'd say a 1 and a conditional pick to be named later. They don't have to be this year either. Someone will mortgage their future to win now.