Tannenbaum gone as GM Monday - Page 2

124 · 12-27-2012, 05:15 PM

This is what I expected, and by what I expected I mean for the Jets to completely half-ass this off-season. They're going to can or re-assign Tannenbaum and keep Ryan. Wonderful. What self respecting General Manager is going to want to come in here without any power over who the Head Coach and his coaching staff is? Unless Ryan is fired, this is a stupid, stupid move unless Bill Polian for whatever reason wants to work with Rex Ryan. Forget Eric DeCosta; he's next in line in Baltimore and part of the crew that told Ryan "Thanks, but no thanks".

jetster · 12-27-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 124

This is what I expected, and by what I expected I mean for the Jets to completely half-ass this off-season. They're going to can or re-assign Tannenbaum and keep Ryan. Wonderful. What self respecting General Manager is going to want to come in here without any power over who the Head Coach and his coaching staff is? Unless Ryan is fired, this is a stupid, stupid move unless Bill Polian for whatever reason wants to work with Rex Ryan. Forget Eric DeCosta; he's next in line in Baltimore and part of the crew that told Ryan "Thanks, but no thanks".

Agree!
They keep Rex it's like a slow death march to a complete overhaul AGAIN in 2014.
That is so ny jets its laughable.

124 · 12-27-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jetster

Agree!
They keep Rex it's like a slow death march to a complete overhaul AGAIN in 2014.
That is so ny jets its laughable.

Yep.

You either fire both or keep both. Do not half-ass this. However, that's likely what we're about to see.

BIGKIDD325 · 12-27-2012, 05:22 PM

I'm hoping that when a new GM is brought in, it's a personnel guy and he's given full autonomy. He should be able to piece together his own staff and he should be allowed to fire Rex if he wants to. The biggest problem the Jets have had the last few years is communication. There needs to be a unified game plan.

Hopefully that's what happens. Personally, I'd like to see an offensive head coach who can come in and bring the team into the future.

rextilleon · 12-27-2012, 05:35 PM

Why do I have this suspicion that old man Shottenheimer will someone become a major player in this circus? That would be a disaster.

DDNYjets · 12-27-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

If they fire Tanny, then fire him. No reassignments.

And if Tanny goes, Bradway MUST go with him.

They might keep Bradway as a scout. He is an experienced set of eyes. He was all over Russell Wilson. I know he has had plenty of failures which is why
I am not suggesting he get any kind of finally say.

Ultimately I hope the new GM will get to decide his entire staff.

Nike · 12-27-2012, 05:47 PM

what if woody looks to the his buddies the maras and tischs for help?
who in the giants organization could be a possibility?

GandWFan · 12-27-2012, 05:48 PM

When we were looking for a new HC, the candidates were told that we were keeping Schotty. Competent HC's said "No, Thanks". We wound up with Rex.

Now we are looking for a GM. The candidates are being told that we are keeping Rex. Competent GM's will say :No, Thanks". We will wind up with a first time nobody.

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

revischrist · 12-27-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

If they fire Tanny, then fire him. No reassignments.

And if Tanny goes, Bradway MUST go with him.

Why? If tanny is a good capologist and could assist the next GM why not keep him?

Some of you just want blood and come off like children.

GandWFan · 12-27-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

Why? If tanny is a good capologist and could assist the next GM why not keep him?

Some of you just want blood and come off like children.

Love your sif gif. Lol, what a girly man.

Have you every worked in Management? Demotions do not work when changing management teams. They undermine the new management team. Competent managers will not allow it. And any self respecting manager would not accept a demotion.

Cleansweep2013 · 12-27-2012, 05:53 PM

too bad there is not a clause in Sanchez contract that says "if Mike T is fired after this season your assinine contract is voided" Ofcourse if MT didnt give Marky the extention the Sanchisers diehardeder would have said hev only played so bad this year because he was worrying about his future with team after season..

Jordy · 12-27-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

Why? If tanny is a good capologist and could assist the next GM why not keep him?

Some of you just want blood and come off like children.

I'm not going to speak for anyone else but I see it as a normal and prudent course of business.

You don't keep a guy around in a lesser capacity who has just come off a 7 year power trip and expect everything to go smoothly. Having him in the building, IMO, would be a distraction.

I don't think a new GM would want to operate under those circumstances nor do I think he should. And I assure you that there are viable candidates who will not take the job or may not even interview if they know that Tannenbaum will still be there.

GuidoYaztremski · 12-27-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

Why? If tanny is a good capologist and could assist the next GM why not keep him?

Some of you just want blood and come off like children.

Given some of the awful contracts he's handed out, particularly Holmes and Sanchez, and the lousy cap position he's created for 2013, can you really say he's a ''good capologist"?

GandWFan · 12-27-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

They might keep Bradway as a scout. He is an experienced set of eyes. He was all over Russell Wilson. I know he has had plenty of failures which is why
I am not suggesting he get any kind of finally say.

Ultimately I hope the new GM will get to decide his entire staff.

So the complaint about the current management team is that they cannot evaluate talent, and yet you want to keep the chief talent evaluator? Hmmm...

RazorJet · 12-27-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

If they fire Tanny, then fire him. No reassignments.

And if Tanny goes, Bradway MUST go with him.

We have the worst o-line in the nfl and your wish list contains no linemen. Do you wish that we'd keep losing?

Jordy · 12-27-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski

Given some of the awful contracts he's handed out, particularly Holmes and Sanchez, and the lousy cap position he's created for 2013, can you really say he's a ''good capologist"?

To me, that's become an overrated overused apologist card for anyone who wants Tannenbaum retained.

It's 2013. There are plenty of capologists out there now doing just as good or better. You can't reinvent the wheel.

revischrist · 12-27-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GandWFan

Love your sif gif. Lol, what a girly man.

Have you every worked in Management? Demotions do not work when changing management teams. They undermine the new management team. Competent managers will not allow it. And any self respecting manager would not accept a demotion.

This isn't working at a regular job. Plenty of GMs get fired and get reassigned. The Yankees fired Gene Michael and then became president of scouting in 1996. That backfired so badly for the Yankees that they have only won 5 world series since.

GandWFan · 12-27-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

This isn't working at a regular job. Plenty of GMs get fired and get reassigned. The Yankees fired Gene Michael and then became president of scouting in 1996. That backfired so badly for the Yankees that they have only bought 5 world series since.

fixed that for you. It is not too hard to be a GM of the Yankees. No cap, deep pockets. Lol. Just buy the best players and there you go.

Jordy · 12-27-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

This isn't working at a regular job. Plenty of GMs get fired and get reassigned. The Yankees fired Gene Michael and then became president of scouting in 1996. That backfired so badly for the Yankees that they have only won 5 world series since.

Gene Michael had legitimate and unique personnel evaluation skills.

Tannenbaum does not possess those. And his "capologist" skills can be easily duplicated.

revischrist · 12-27-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GandWFan

fixed that for you. It is not too hard to be a GM of the Yankees. No cap, deep pockets. Lol. Just buy the best players and there you go.

Being a Mets fan is tough

12-27-2012, 05:15 PM	#21
124 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,958	This is what I expected, and by what I expected I mean for the Jets to completely half-ass this off-season. They're going to can or re-assign Tannenbaum and keep Ryan. Wonderful. What self respecting General Manager is going to want to come in here without any power over who the Head Coach and his coaching staff is? Unless Ryan is fired, this is a stupid, stupid move unless Bill Polian for whatever reason wants to work with Rex Ryan. Forget Eric DeCosta; he's next in line in Baltimore and part of the crew that told Ryan "Thanks, but no thanks".

12-27-2012, 05:22 PM	#24
BIGKIDD325 #helloplayoffs All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,617	I'm hoping that when a new GM is brought in, it's a personnel guy and he's given full autonomy. He should be able to piece together his own staff and he should be allowed to fire Rex if he wants to. The biggest problem the Jets have had the last few years is communication. There needs to be a unified game plan. Hopefully that's what happens. Personally, I'd like to see an offensive head coach who can come in and bring the team into the future.

12-27-2012, 05:35 PM	#25
rextilleon Is Itzdik the Man? All League Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,648	Why do I have this suspicion that old man Shottenheimer will someone become a major player in this circus? That would be a disaster.

12-27-2012, 05:47 PM	#27
Nike Fix it or sell it Woody! Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,386	what if woody looks to the his buddies the maras and tischs for help? who in the giants organization could be a possibility?

12-27-2012, 05:48 PM	#28
GandWFan Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,099	When we were looking for a new HC, the candidates were told that we were keeping Schotty. Competent HC's said "No, Thanks". We wound up with Rex. Now we are looking for a GM. The candidates are being told that we are keeping Rex. Competent GM's will say :No, Thanks". We will wind up with a first time nobody. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

12-27-2012, 05:53 PM	#31
Cleansweep2013 1 more year until Sanchez is delievering pizzas on sundays.. Rookie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 600	too bad there is not a clause in Sanchez contract that says "if Mike T is fired after this season your assinine contract is voided" Ofcourse if MT didnt give Marky the extention the Sanchisers diehardeder would have said hev only played so bad this year because he was worrying about his future with team after season..