Rob Ninkovich on NE's dynasty: "That whole era is over with. It's gone."

McGinley · 01-21-2013, 09:44 PM

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"That whole era is over with. It's gone," said Ninkovich of the New England teams that won Super Bowls XXXVI, XXXVIII and XXXIX, via WEEI.com. "So this is a whole new team. It's a different bunch of guys. We all have to experience it and learn for ourselves what it's like. Getting in the Super Bowl last year and losing left a bad taste in my mouth.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...at-era-is-gone

jetsfan96 · 01-21-2013, 09:51 PM

Thats good he's realizing it. They havent been the same the last 4-5 years in the playoffs.

child please · 01-21-2013, 09:52 PM

True, that tainted spygate dynasty is left on the scrap heep of history along with Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds.

Vin · 01-21-2013, 10:30 PM

At least Lance contributed something to Society with his charity work toward combating cancer....even if he did cheat to do it.

But everyone else....Bonds....Bellichoke....Spygate.....yeah.

jzelada121 · 01-21-2013, 10:31 PM

they should try cheating, its worked for them in the past

frankiepapa · 01-21-2013, 10:34 PM

Ninkovich didn't have a great game yesterday...seems to kill us though....

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GreenReaper · 01-21-2013, 11:37 PM

fnordcircle · 01-22-2013, 08:03 AM

Brady and Wilfork are the only guys from the 2004 SB still on the team unless I'm forgetting someone. They've got different position coaches, a different personnel guy, different schemes on defense and offense, etc.

Nink's dead on and anyone who watches the Pats sees a team that is more like the early 2000s Colts than the early 2000s Patriots. High powered offense lacking the defense necessary to get you over the hump in the post season.

DDNYjets · 01-22-2013, 08:08 AM

Outside of Wilfork, Nink is the best defensive player on that team.

Have to say, watching the Pats lose like that really took a way a lot of the sting from this past year. This will be the best SB for Jets fans in a while, no NE, no Giants and no bitter taste from having just lost an AFCCG.

Stillafan · 01-22-2013, 08:36 AM

The Pats are never the same team each year because Bellichek cuts, trades or just lets go through FA market, 30 to 40 percent of the team each year. The only people who remain on the team is Brady and the owner, Kraft-Bellichek can't trade them.

Jetfan16 · 01-22-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by frankiepapa

Ninkovich didn't have a great game yesterday...seems to kill us though....

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What game were you watching?

Not to mention, the guy seems to be a turnover forcing machine, everytime you watch a game he seems to come up with at least one turnover, and it usually happens at a most critical point in the game, not to mention the fact that the guy can legitimately rush the passer.

rmeyer52 · 01-22-2013, 08:53 AM

Brady is 36 and he hasn't won a superbowl since he was 27. What I found the most insulting was the fact that so many people said Brady was the best QB in the NFL ever. I agree that Brady can be good but really great QB's excel when they need to so they can win the big game. There is a very good chance Welker won't be back next year so we will see what is going to happen to golden boy without his favorite receiver.

freestater · 01-22-2013, 09:13 AM

Pats haven't been a 'dynasty' since the defense started using helmet communications. They're the most fraudulent 'dynasty' in sports history. Without an illicit advantage, they're just another also-ran in the quest for a championship. In fact, if you go back to the Pats/Panthers SB, one of the commentators actually makes the comment, "it's almost as if the patriots know what Carolina is going to call!" It's laughable really, in retrospect. I wonder if Roger burned those tapes too....

fnordcircle · 01-22-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by freestater

Pats haven't been a 'dynasty' since the defense started using helmet communications.

This makes perfect sense, what with the Pats having had so many offensive struggles since 2007.

Jordy · 01-22-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by avangeline

Really good thread!

I think you need some lessons on posting urls.

McGinley?

IndianaJet · 01-22-2013, 11:03 AM

I like all the rest of you, relished watching the Pats lose on Sunday.

But the overjoy at the "failings" of the Pats is baffling to me.

Are they a "dynasty" anymore - nope - they haven't won a Superbowl in 9 years now?

But they're still pretty good and I'd take their last two years over the Jets last two years any day.

We need to get over ourselves. This relentless mocking of the Pats "failings" only make us look like sore losers and jealous little whinny b!tches.

negcreep80 · 01-22-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianaJet

I like all the rest of you, relished watching the Pats lose on Sunday.

But the overjoy at the "failings" of the Pats is baffling to me.

Are they a "dynasty" anymore - nope - they haven't won a Superbowl in 9 years now?

But they're still pretty good and I'd take their last two years over the Jets last two years any day.

We need to get over ourselves. This relentless mocking of the Pats "failings" only make us look like sore losers and jealous little whinny b!tches.

Agreed...I hate Patriots fans up here in Boston and believe me, it was schadenfreude on Sunday. But seeing some of the posts here in the days after show that some Jets fans leave a lot to be desired as well.

freestater · 01-22-2013, 12:00 PM

Geez... does it really need explaining? finding joy in our miserable enemies losses?

I don't have any shame over it. Every time the pats lose, or the fish lose, or the bills lose... I find it amusing. F 'em all. Raiders too. and the steelers for that matter.

01-22-2013, 08:36 AM	#10
Stillafan A fan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 113	What do you expect The Pats are never the same team each year because Bellichek cuts, trades or just lets go through FA market, 30 to 40 percent of the team each year. The only people who remain on the team is Brady and the owner, Kraft-Bellichek can't trade them.

01-21-2013, 09:51 PM	#2
jetsfan96 Brainwashed Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 76	Thats good he's realizing it. They havent been the same the last 4-5 years in the playoffs.

01-21-2013, 09:52 PM	#3
child please Rookie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 918	True, that tainted spygate dynasty is left on the scrap heep of history along with Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds.

01-21-2013, 10:30 PM	#4
Vin RE-SIGN ME, DAMMIT!!! All Pro Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,098	At least Lance contributed something to Society with his charity work toward combating cancer....even if he did cheat to do it. But everyone else....Bonds....Bellichoke....Spygate.....yeah.

01-21-2013, 10:31 PM	#5
jzelada121 We need more DL!!! All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,142	they should try cheating, its worked for them in the past

01-21-2013, 10:34 PM	#6
frankiepapa hopes to bring back braylon and holmes All League Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,527	Ninkovich didn't have a great game yesterday...seems to kill us though.... Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2

01-21-2013, 11:37 PM	#7
GreenReaper ...back from the DEAD...again! All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,553

01-22-2013, 08:03 AM	#8
fnordcircle Pats fan Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 110	Brady and Wilfork are the only guys from the 2004 SB still on the team unless I'm forgetting someone. They've got different position coaches, a different personnel guy, different schemes on defense and offense, etc. Nink's dead on and anyone who watches the Pats sees a team that is more like the early 2000s Colts than the early 2000s Patriots. High powered offense lacking the defense necessary to get you over the hump in the post season.

01-22-2013, 08:08 AM	#9
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,237	Outside of Wilfork, Nink is the best defensive player on that team. Have to say, watching the Pats lose like that really took a way a lot of the sting from this past year. This will be the best SB for Jets fans in a while, no NE, no Giants and no bitter taste from having just lost an AFCCG.

01-22-2013, 08:53 AM	#12
rmeyer52 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Simi Valley, California Posts: 2,709	Brady is 36 and he hasn't won a superbowl since he was 27. What I found the most insulting was the fact that so many people said Brady was the best QB in the NFL ever. I agree that Brady can be good but really great QB's excel when they need to so they can win the big game. There is a very good chance Welker won't be back next year so we will see what is going to happen to golden boy without his favorite receiver.

01-22-2013, 09:13 AM	#13
freestater we gonna lay around the shanty, Mama, and put a good buzz on Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 13,507	Pats haven't been a 'dynasty' since the defense started using helmet communications. They're the most fraudulent 'dynasty' in sports history. Without an illicit advantage, they're just another also-ran in the quest for a championship. In fact, if you go back to the Pats/Panthers SB, one of the commentators actually makes the comment, "it's almost as if the patriots know what Carolina is going to call!" It's laughable really, in retrospect. I wonder if Roger burned those tapes too....

01-22-2013, 11:03 AM	#16
IndianaJet Hoosiers! All League Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Fishers, Indiana Posts: 3,475	I like all the rest of you, relished watching the Pats lose on Sunday. But the overjoy at the "failings" of the Pats is baffling to me. Are they a "dynasty" anymore - nope - they haven't won a Superbowl in 9 years now? But they're still pretty good and I'd take their last two years over the Jets last two years any day. We need to get over ourselves. This relentless mocking of the Pats "failings" only make us look like sore losers and jealous little whinny b!tches.

01-22-2013, 12:00 PM	#18
freestater we gonna lay around the shanty, Mama, and put a good buzz on Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 13,507	Geez... does it really need explaining? finding joy in our miserable enemies losses? I don't have any shame over it. Every time the pats lose, or the fish lose, or the bills lose... I find it amusing. F 'em all. Raiders too. and the steelers for that matter.